fobs and garage remotes and Adrian

Thu Oct 18 13:26:55 BST 2018

I did not realise the details of your initial email Yvonne. The matter is less serious than I initially interpreted. It set that for the moment there is not specific security issue.

Yes, he is certainly a free citizen, and if he is granted access by an owner we have no control over that - unless if at some point we witness something that should cause us any concern. However, he should not take liberties and he certainly has no reason to access the garage or garden.

For the time being he is welcome to come on the same grounds as any other contractor, cleaner, etc, and he must respect those privileges. If not then we will deal with that situation as needs be.

I have now heard that he has been paid in accordance with the settlement agreement therefore any contact from either party’s solicitors is now irrelevant and we have no leverage anyway.

Know I know the full picture I think no action need to be taken other than to monitor the situation and to advise Eddy and Aziz or Adrian’s access privileges and the need for him to log in and out.

Peter.

Peter Rose
mrpdrose at gmail.com

> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:02, <Bandymocatta at btinternet.com> <Bandymocatta at btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> The thing is, if an owner gives him a fob, we can see which number it is, see when it has been used to enter the premises and CCTV does the rest.  We can assess which owner has given him the fob and if there is any problem, report it to the owner.  This does not only apply to Adrian but also to have a security check on who is going in and out of the building on behalf of whom.
>  
> If there is anything we don’t like as far as security or snooping is concerned, the fob number can be blocked – just like junk mail
>  
> Y
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> From: family at fabris.co.uk <family at fabris.co.uk> 
> Sent: 18 October 2018 12:54
> To: Peter Rose <mrpdrose at gmail.com>
> Cc: Anna Cury <anna_cury at yahoo.com>; Delia Covezzi <deliacovezzi at gmail.com>; Anthony Stafford <astafford011 at gmail.com>; Yvonne Mocatta <Bandymocatta at btinternet.com>; Glenn Pereira <glennpereira at gmail.com>; Nanni Fabris <fabris38 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: fobs and garage remotes and Adrian
>  
> Peter, 
>  
> Adrian is a free citizen. 
>  
> If someone in the building wants to give him access with the old fob, new fob, as a guest from main entrance or back door and understandably  this is a problem for us, we should address this concern with the owner allowing him access. 
> The fact that he has “a past” in and with the building, doen`t mean we should treat him differently from any other guest/worker at this stage.
> Any lawyer is going to tell us that if his behaviour is like the one of any other guest/worker we have no ground for any action. 
>  
> Changing the fobs is obviously a good idea. The sooner the better. Vince is ready.
>  
> Regards.
>  
>> On 18 Oct 2018, at 12:36, Peter Rose <mrpdrose at gmail.com <mailto:mrpdrose at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I agree and I have already been in contact with Vince and am just awaiting a reply on some of my questions.
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>> Has Adrian since surrendered the remote he used? Do you feel that this matter be referred to Nkolika so that she can contact his Solicitors to warn him that although he is employed by one owner, it does not entitle him to have access to common parts, that he must sign in and out, and that he must have surrendered all copied of fobs, keys, and remotes. If he has discovered any that he did not know he had he should surrender them now. 
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>> I personally feel that his Solicitor should advise him carefully that such action is technically trespassing at the very least and he must be cautious of jeopardising the already tolerant nature we have shown with regards to the Settlement Agreement.
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>> I believe a letter from hi Solicitors would be the best action to take with keys and fobs falling in a close second.
>>  
>> Peter.
>> 
>> Peter Rose
>> mrpdrose at gmail.com <mailto:mrpdrose at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>> On 18 Oct 2018, at 12:25, Anna Cury <anna_cury at yahoo.com <mailto:anna_cury at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Yvonne
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thank you, I totally agree.
>>>  
>>> Adrian called me today a couple of times and I don’t really  want to have to deal with this sort of issues anymore or expose our porters and undermine the transition process. 
>>>  
>>> I am more than happy to work with Vince to get this done ASAP. 
>>>  
>>> best regards 
>>> Anna 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 18 Oct 2018, at 12:14, <Bandymocatta at btinternet.com <mailto:Bandymocatta at btinternet.com>> <Bandymocatta at btinternet.com <mailto:Bandymocatta at btinternet.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>  
>>>> We had an issue with Adrian this morning – under control!  However I do think it is important to address the subject of remotes and fobs in that order as soon as possible.
>>>>  
>>>> Adrian has access to the building via garage remote – we have not idea if and how many he may have, though he did leave on in the flat.  Same thing with fobs.  We have changed all the keys, but following on from this morning’s mini-crisis, it is imperative that we do something.
>>>>  
>>>> We understand and discussed at our meeting that the remotes could be reset quite simply and inexpensively – so let’s start with this and organise a formula for non-residents to be able to check and reset their fobs – or we can even set all these spares he ordered in the interim to cover those who are not on the spot.  Shouldn’t be difficult.
>>>>  
>>>> Front door access is more readily visible on the CCTV.
>>>>  
>>>> I gather Adrian is working at 7 – Mr Album’s flat, so I trust he is being signed in and out.
>>>>  
>>>> I don’t want to be alarmist – but there is no reason for him to have access to the common parts of the building without desk knowledge during the day, or of his own accord out of hours.
>>>>  
>>>> Whichever way, it is going to take a good couple of weeks to get properly underway.
>>>>  
>>>> Please consider carefully and revert
>>>>  
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Yvonne
>>>>  
>>>> 19, One Warrington Gardens,
>>>> London W9 2QB
>>>>  
>>>> Mobile 07770 887149

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